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From: "Michał \"rysiek\" Woźniak" <rysiek@hackerspace.pl>
To: discuss@spectrum-os.org
Subject: Re: Comparison to Qubes OS
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2020 22:19:45 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <fd3d5a79-da3b-43a9-f6c7-c06a928afab5@hackerspace.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87h7vdqqw4.fsf@alyssa.is>


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On 6/14/20 9:27 PM, Alyssa Ross wrote:
>> So, why not start a public discussion in Qubes' mailing list on issue
>> tracker to figure out what is needed to accomplish Spectrum's goals?
>>
>> It will probably turn out that you made the right decision by starting
>> a separate project, but at the very least:
>> - You'll may get attention from people who can contribute to Spectrum
>> - The issues involved with be publicly documented and searchable for
>>   future generations
> 
> I think you maybe don't appreciate just how huge an undertaking this
> would be.  There is so much that would have to change about how Qubes
> works that I think you'd end up having to reimplement most of it
> anyway, but you'd be doing it bit by bit, never having the opportunity
> to consider the system as a whole.

Plus, SpectrumOS does not have to deal with backwards compatibility. If QubesOS
developers were to start implementing these changes, they would constantly have
to deal with trade-offs between ease of implementing them and the cost of
breaking backwards compatibility.

> At the end of the day I just don't believe that trying to shoehorn these
> changes into Qubes is the best way to make progress.  It might well be
> valuable to try that, but even so it would make much more sense for
> somebody who believes in that approach to dedicate the huge amount of
> effort required to attempt it, rather than me.  This could be another
> effort that could be pursued in parallel to my work on Spectrum.

Very much this.

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Best,
r


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  reply	other threads:[~2020-06-14 22:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-06-12 11:06 joweill
2020-06-12 11:28 ` Michał "rysiek" Woźniak
2020-06-12 11:54   ` infokiller ​
2020-06-12 12:02     ` Michał "rysiek" Woźniak
2020-06-13 11:19       ` Alyssa Ross
2020-06-13 11:38 ` Alyssa Ross
2020-06-14 20:19   ` infokiller ​
2020-06-14 21:27     ` Alyssa Ross
2020-06-14 22:19       ` Michał "rysiek" Woźniak [this message]
2020-06-15  1:59         ` infokiller ​
2020-06-15  1:54       ` infokiller ​
2020-06-14 21:13   ` Michael Raskin
2020-06-15  1:33     ` infokiller ​
2020-06-15 11:38     ` Michael Raskin
2020-06-15 13:44       ` infokiller ​
2020-06-15 14:06         ` Michał "rysiek" Woźniak
2020-06-15 15:07           ` infokiller ​
2020-06-15 14:42       ` Michael Raskin
2020-06-15 15:29         ` infokiller ​

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