From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.3 (2019-12-06) on atuin.qyliss.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.5 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN,FREEMAIL_FROM, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2,SPF_HELO_NONE,URIBL_SBL_A autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.3 Received: by atuin.qyliss.net (Postfix, from userid 496) id 7883F4C490; Tue, 5 Jan 2021 19:27:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by atuin.qyliss.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9180A4C466; Tue, 5 Jan 2021 19:27:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: by atuin.qyliss.net (Postfix, from userid 496) id 80AE34C3DD; Tue, 5 Jan 2021 19:27:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-lf1-f45.google.com (mail-lf1-f45.google.com [209.85.167.45]) by atuin.qyliss.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 124B94C44F for ; Tue, 5 Jan 2021 19:27:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-lf1-f45.google.com with SMTP id h22so1143603lfu.2 for ; Tue, 05 Jan 2021 11:27:28 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=9dpGC/sbusQU3A4VHgDMBwXRnBdRCktIdPgghXBNrro=; b=LsHiN8mmetJSuD8ut0Z7LB+7MNPr4FcGpiH8zHSVERIWUZk7rzheQcsO2p7dLqDdB5 /NEKLKvOZG3EiFrF4v7YyEXVzU6TnZbIa97xmjms17eram6bcc8OrOcVEhwKY9fH8m3x ehMGklX+1aZ/B4I+h0MbUu9n4VAS195CJnR9o+WcK41P4HkadLi+B5P+OfBETgc1C+uu rH0KR6eCGxBq+V1H4hLU0Q68i1W2+ILPlj9G79iepxRmE9VPTNWTQsLGwfB7CQlP+/uq qwLkMQ5Z1OT8824lQ7Gj0FTT8KZH97bg/XNnm6RNlJ4gcUjy9uAhTMOoBm6C7U/FGZEj pERQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=9dpGC/sbusQU3A4VHgDMBwXRnBdRCktIdPgghXBNrro=; b=fRPnJbsDbI+DtBNE9Af2AE0dfVtB57oy44MuoBWN1dEWC6akQ4dq63v0ts1uHE3zh6 ExlGGC4TsHpK2QvyIq0YZ7FLpCzRtyrxC/5XaOI5YbclAysC+UDAGrKVxDui/0R8iIfg WghRRfARsbagkEThBeRVm2eHeHSrd7nr8O2mE3jWf7x/04w5Kuw7aheUmMEj5eoI/ZSO Svef93CJbe8CZ626qyxFnJ6QgQJf6vOO9wZIvyA1poJUZ4QJxhxpomfocAo2Li5LsJa3 Cjhsx3ggjqKBtXiYZug6tUeDVFQoqMjpn7lB1cdzmUK1IfkmPRMM0v5nCArUvGhfCEDa EyOw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531oK6mdxAY01nMKgfXUhDmaDr3txSx0DUuB7tLNLh0AdzAVgREo xbADraNF74Z7pOpLfgURLAzKK64zsd+1SxJn/0czSwvoggs= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxiCCZD/mdFhxF5SIUvujSMhflleRE5YfZoooysA9VeuImq0pPnehIR8yl2x67kKeipm1/QezgL4k5VPp054xE= X-Received: by 2002:a2e:b8d1:: with SMTP id s17mr524486ljp.472.1609874846130; Tue, 05 Jan 2021 11:27:26 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Thomas Leonard Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2021 19:27:15 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: New user getting started questions To: discuss@spectrum-os.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Message-ID-Hash: VP3KJV3JYWSLJTUKDT3MAKIABZGDCSPN X-Message-ID-Hash: VP3KJV3JYWSLJTUKDT3MAKIABZGDCSPN X-MailFrom: talex5@gmail.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; header-match-config-1; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; suspicious-header X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General high-level discussion about Spectrum Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Hi, I've been running Qubes for a few years now and I'd like to give Spectrum a try, as I've been having some hardware and performance problems with Qubes. Is there some up-to-date guide I can follow? I found https://alyssa.is/using-virtio-wl/#demo and was able to see the weston terminal. I also tried updating to the latest commit and was able to get a nested wayfire window with: nix-build . -A spectrumPackages && ./result-3/bin/spectrum-vm (I'm fairly new to Nix, so not sure if this is the right way to do things) I managed to change the keyboard layout, mount a tmpfs for home, and increase the memory enough to start firefox, but I haven't managed to get much further. Things I tried so far: - I tried replacing wayfire with weston-terminal, to avoid the nested session. But sommelier segfaults when I do that. - I tried adding `--shared-dir /tmp/ff:ff:type=9p` to share a host directory. Then `mount -t 9p -o trans=virtio,version=9p2000.L ff /tmp` in the VM seemed to work, but `ls /tmp` crashed the VM. - I tried using `-d /dev/mapper/disk` to share an LVM partition, but `mount -t ext4 /dev/vdb /tmp` refused to mount it. - I tried enabling networking with `--host_ip 10.0.0.1`, etc, but it said it couldn't create a tap device. I guess it needs more privileges. Ideally, I'd like to run a VM with each of my old Qubes filesystems, to get back to where I was with my Qubes setup, before investigating new spectrum stuff (e.g. one app per VM). Do you have any advice on this? I see these lists are a bit quiet - I hope someone is still working on this because it sounds great :-) Thanks! -- talex5 (GitHub/Twitter) http://roscidus.com/blog/ GPG: 5DD5 8D70 899C 454A 966D 6A51 7513 3C8F 94F6 E0CC