From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.3 (2019-12-06) on atuin.qyliss.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.5 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL,SPF_HELO_PASS autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.3 Received: by atuin.qyliss.net (Postfix, from userid 496) id F07422D62F; Sun, 22 Nov 2020 20:09:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by atuin.qyliss.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7239E2D60D; Sun, 22 Nov 2020 20:09:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: by atuin.qyliss.net (Postfix, from userid 496) id 81F9A2D589; Sun, 22 Nov 2020 20:09:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wout2-smtp.messagingengine.com (wout2-smtp.messagingengine.com [64.147.123.25]) by atuin.qyliss.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 212DB2D587 for ; Sun, 22 Nov 2020 20:09:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from compute3.internal (compute3.nyi.internal [10.202.2.43]) by mailout.west.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39948861; Sun, 22 Nov 2020 15:09:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailfrontend1 ([10.202.2.162]) by compute3.internal (MEProxy); Sun, 22 Nov 2020 15:09:38 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=alyssa.is; h= date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-type:in-reply-to; s=fm1; bh=zuNLfdb77lkMGxqlkR9cwzCGNnw eIzB+L9rl6Ov6MCo=; b=UfLj3FgB4DDDjQ1KAmV2hoZ3txs/pesEhBPjMoRcUy6 3s7ph9zNP42kF0SIU78Qtsbp1kl1ouBKHmCA1VMLgjsJAe5aVKE298nd32Yvp4az SnMspdvNDuRcNMiK/azus39lKHJwdI9vy1lCtccKQSCxGZ0gMQGcfSEwz22xwfZS Omt/Vp5FulWsPIKA1aFZQ7GlsFUq3oKnm7jpMZcwEpE1FZ3g9vzsotxwRK1b/ypY gBRURbFbz3j4VyCbrhvHKvrvqtOPQ2h9WoQvI06aAGfdjilguj+2UWUSA2Z/kt7z XdW0nXryKHFep2iybYhn1qmhoXrGi2Xeby2Z+vmheFQ== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-me-proxy :x-me-proxy:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm1; bh=zuNLfd b77lkMGxqlkR9cwzCGNnweIzB+L9rl6Ov6MCo=; b=UZWCMa+x9RctIA/MjHmm0y x5ZWZ4LPMRq0A8fsLx+DBRIrNcC+xmzIAQwoaN08dArQHVIszIUI1LT9VN+y1SZA WrS5HfnNVh4xmXvVC/5Dhu/5FY3l7lLa61/l+4OGr4YL45pRwzwky7l15ZSAhOA9 uUMRuIeCWX1ZszOjhHw3gRZc3hSSYV4aLfhFHn1SVHXnpxixCFCrHBC32O2pVy// kR0ba9pNAKl8ywkDM1sd4SJwWONGBjiDO4ol/OvR2zmhH4aNhsn5zCfpq6yDgr0s h4alfLeVIuvNfAWATHeVfg0KSUBRj4NoDnPIbpRn+0yLmHN63PAEDCReMpaHr5yQ == X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedujedrudeggedgudefiecutefuodetggdotefrod ftvfcurfhrohhfihhlvgemucfhrghsthforghilhdpqfgfvfdpuffrtefokffrpgfnqfgh necuuegrihhlohhuthemuceftddtnecusecvtfgvtghiphhivghnthhsucdlqddutddtmd enucfjughrpeffhffvuffkfhggtggujgesghdttdertddtudenucfhrhhomheptehlhihs shgrucftohhsshcuoehhihesrghlhihsshgrrdhisheqnecuggftrfgrthhtvghrnhepgf ehffeltddvhefgkeetgeekudehhedtgeetkeekleejffeuteffjedvtefgtdejnecukfhp peegiedrkedtrddugeefrddugeeinecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgeptdenucfrrghrrg hmpehmrghilhhfrhhomhepqhihlhhishhssegvvhgvrdhqhihlihhsshdrnhgvth X-ME-Proxy: Received: from eve.qyliss.net (p2e508f92.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [46.80.143.146]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 5306D328005A; Sun, 22 Nov 2020 15:09:37 -0500 (EST) Received: by eve.qyliss.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 65D8A77F; Sun, 22 Nov 2020 20:09:36 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2020 20:09:36 +0000 From: Alyssa Ross To: Michael Raskin <7c6f434c@mail.ru> Subject: Re: [PATCH www 2/1] design.html: mention aarch64 as well as x86_64 Message-ID: <20201122200936.ebzwgalauoxob6l5@eve.qyliss.net> References: <20201121152314.15152-1-hi@alyssa.is> <20201121152314.15152-1-hi@alyssa.is> <20201118120116.21390-1-hi@alyssa.is> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="mnct4uu23mqv7wtj" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Message-ID-Hash: JNEEUJZV5V2Z552K6PXTFWEEFNTMRFGE X-Message-ID-Hash: JNEEUJZV5V2Z552K6PXTFWEEFNTMRFGE X-MailFrom: qyliss@eve.qyliss.net X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; header-match-config-1; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; suspicious-header CC: devel@spectrum-os.org, Molly Miller X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Patches and low-level development discussion Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: --mnct4uu23mqv7wtj Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > >I'd like to continue to link to x86 Considered Harmful somewhere in > >the text, but couldn't figure out how to fit it in since there's not > >really anywhere I'm talking about x86 specifically rather than all > >architectures. I'd appreciate suggestions for how I might do that. > > I think it is nice to have =ABwhy not ARM=BB and =ABwhy not x86*=BB secti= ons > when you have an implementation that you are justifying, and no doubts > on the way-cheaper attack level (there must be a memory attack on Sway > given a hijacked browser, mustn't there be?) > > Right now, you getting a restful break is more useful than picking > wording on choices Spectrum cannot yet afford to make. Yeah good idea but absolutely. I just want to make sure that while I'm having the break I don't have to worry that people are looking at the website and getting the impression that I'm going to be able to do something I'm not. > >

> >-Ideally, all Spectrum packages, x86_64 and ppc64le, would be built on > >+Ideally, all Spectrum packages, for all architectures, would be built on > > POWER9 hardware. Even if a user has to trust the x86_64 computer > > _Ideally_ on diverse hardware with more than one transparent-ish > platform, because lack of blobs to load does not mean lack of backed-in > vulnerable functionality. Open POWER9 cores help, but do not prove > faithful implementation on a specific chip in your hands, all that > stuff. > > I would put as > =AB > Ideally, all Spectrum packages, for all architectures, would be built on > diverse hardware including a platform with POWER9 level of openness. > =BB > > But, again, this a bridge to burn once it is crossed, or something. Yeah sounds good, I think I'll just go with exactly that phrasing. --mnct4uu23mqv7wtj Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAABCAAdFiEEH9wgcxqlHM/ARR3h+dvtSFmyccAFAl+6xX4ACgkQ+dvtSFmy ccAY1w//UurbiGTQeDPOhH86PpxdUx2UEkJXqT8AtcPudTGY2+3lVBNzCKkGLabl K6uPwqWeysSdtwH95S/HeBtxIkqBL5QIYQu2aPHKcZP0ndbL2Grt8E4cIPO5VBl7 Z16+/OBX5+wlp1IIgrKIi/nmHQTmg/3EKjRLr17JeDp/1fDR50r0NmcSAA6MPm7c w+C4ZY+t/kWihWj3rCaWLbJumnJgkaOLBpHSTp6nuleP2lYCS5TPzy9HjGc8kvik /CHkxJBG51Ed+FqWLaLneiSJa2/ki52/YUuykMQQ/ghreHSy/0alY9jwJNjRXq0O eBT7OCCr4CtHUtNecOA1dUZg+af4yVCjSBj9XJ3EilqShuGkalBm5V7dpfnZqMLe k1UFBPbKc64MFlubqXWGFCicOdcLQXHT0J1mlG/vIbAGRsNKGcK/rZrSdEF6uKjZ DGQSuO1abzlCHv7moIv3L16J2u6oSy2+KdvZ8Y9AD3oej2WvExWVp1/flVrAOZom 1N5ioLhR+AODV0bhX/sAqDCyqreAihl8AoVOwCCEXcuT+Yd/mHAjOm291+hZmJdh Dad9IDAFmlLkeDz/cVEiS3Q45vW2aZNDD/NwOUQTe4Wva3PIWQt1amFTMZSmZjK4 W2kUW2Lfigoq1hHJ9lrnJ3UGAb6QFMAnkl3Uj6phAGqW4Gubcmw= =322p -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --mnct4uu23mqv7wtj--